Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. AZ has and AZSU problem. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It did ok. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. They know. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. Appx $75m per year. 5m. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. $320m per year for 12 years. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. Retweets. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Yormark has a vision. Log in. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). We don’t have the endowment they have. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Replying to @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 19. This happened sometime in the past few days. @MHver3. Log in. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. I’ll update as I get more info. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. com. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. Sign upLog in. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. 2. 239. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. AZ too. Sign upSee new Tweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 1. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. OMG I was wrong. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. Likes. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. Quote. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. Sign up“Called my source. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. @xtmountain. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. Likes. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. That’s it. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Quote Tweets. This happened sometime in the past few days. ·. I don’t normally delete anything. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. There. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. @CFBKnights. Replying to . “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. Their additions brought stability. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. AZ has and AZSU problem. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. Log in. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. 06 Mar 2023 18:13:11Log in. Oregon was the third choice as a. 3. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. There. 1. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. 6. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. Log in. Show more replies. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. . I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. 23. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Look for a thread soon. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. I actually don’t want more western schools. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. That is all. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. 2. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. Likes. But not the question asked. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. @MHver3. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. Sign upSee new Tweets. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. All 3 tiers. Pitt actually did improve after the move. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. Up to 75% would be streaming. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. There’s a catch. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. MHver3. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. And GK. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. OMG I was wrong. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @xtmountain. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. @MHver3. 17. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. 1 — and for No. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. MHver3 @MHver3. 21. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. 2. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. Retweets. 13. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. @cwishn. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. yes they are extending his “deadline”. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Jul 12. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. Houston and BYU applications are in. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. Retweets. 21. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. 1. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Log in. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. ”Log in. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. Amazon gets more first choice. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. Replying to. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. They let UCF pass them up. And they all already know the current numbers. Likes. and @Mountaineer_Ste. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likes. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Replying to. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. Retweets. 9. 19. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Might even see a Huskie or two. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @bobtrollsby. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. help. Likes. 5m. @MHver3. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. We currently get about $4m for that same content. That was a guarantee. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. 7h. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. Retweets. " / Twitter. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. bob trollsby. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. Previous offer for 24. @MHver3. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. Replying to @Tomkatf14. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Ed. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. That’s it. MHver3. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. Look for a thread soon. 3. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ALT. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. Corey Wishnia. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. ”MHver3 @MHver3. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. 5% each. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. ”Log in.